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party was in trouble. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> michael: the senate is still wrangling over chuck hagel's confirmation for defense secretary, but this morning harry reid does in the have the 60 votes to overcome a republican filibuster. he needs five republican votes but so far he only has two, mike johanns of nebraska and thad cochrane of mississippi. so he took his colleagues to task in his own soft-spoken way. >> it's tragic that they've decided to filibuster this qualified nominee. it is really unfortunate. >> michael: you know, reid is of course not totally off the hook. he didn't push filibuster reform through earlier this year even though it looked like he had the chance to do so. but the ludicrous part of this whole thing is the reason why republicans are giving for opposing hagel is bengahzi. that this was a cover up after the ambassador was killed. they're alleging that chuck hagel was involved. not only is that a stretch but chuck hagel oversee something like this. they dignified the response. after both lindsey graham and john mccain said they were largely satisfied accordin
of that exchange, it was not chuck hagel who looked bad. >> ted cruz looked even worse. >> yeah. >> oh, my god. >> we're going to show all those coming up. >> he wasn't prepared, mika, in a lot of ways that were concerning. i think, again, the democrats, republicans, independents alike, if the republicans party thinks badgering an ill-prepared witness that way is going to help them with middle america, they don't know middle america. they could have just let him talk around in circles, but it was -- you know, you talk about the new senator from texas, john mccain -- >> i agree with you. >> as joe manchin said, it was embarrassing. >> compare it to a week ago, to a very prepared hillary clinton. whether badgering prepared or unprepared, badgering is not the way to go. >> having said that, the reviews are in. and they're pretty bad. >> horrible. >> senator marco -- well, some of them are partisan, but there are also we'll get to as well. the response to yesterday' hearing was not good. senator rubio said he cannot support his confirmation. while senator lindsey graham said he's very reluctant to
a little more difficult if and when he gets there. >> andrea, we like chuck hagel. i think he'd be a good secretary of defense, but the performance yesterday was panned by people on all sides of the political spectrum. >> as claire mccaskill told me yesterday, she said, look. he is more used to asking questions than answering questions. there were a lot of issues. and what didn't help, of course, is that his former good friend, john mccain, just eviscerated him, grilled him, didn't give him a chance. yes or no. give me an answer. were you correct or incorrect? i mean, there is a way to try to do that, but clearly he came with a very hostile attitude. and it was very painful to watch. >> yeah. awkward at times. >> i mean, john mccain, mika, didn't let him answer a question. i'm sorry, out of that exchange, it was not chuck hagel who looked bad. >> ted cruz looked even worse. >> yeah. >> oh, my god. >> we're going to show all those coming up. >> he wasn't prepared, mika, in a lot of ways that were concerning. i think, again, the democrats, republicans, independents alike, if the republicans
the chuck hagel nomination. job numbers are in a couple of hours. so much happening in american politics and life in general. get that cup of coffee get the paper. stay with us for three hours of wonderful "full-court press." but before we do that when i fill in for bill, it's my pleasure to introduce the one and only, leesa ferguson. >> good morning, everyone. president obama is handing 12 researchers a national medal of science today and 11 will receive the national medal of technology and innovation. these are the highest honor for the government for scientists engineers and inventors. al first stop on a 5 day trip to germany, frannies and united kingdom to talk about range of global issues. meeting with angela merkel and on saturday, biden will join other senior officials from russia and the united nations to meet with the syrian opposition to discuss that country. earlier today, first day out of office for secretary of state hillary clinton. she has extraordinary approval ratings according to the washington post-abc news poll, american peopl
hagel's critics. >> that's pretty obvious that the political knives were out for chuck hagel. >> that's what you think it was? it was totally partisan? >> what disappointed me is they talked a lot about past quotes, but what about what a secretary of defense is confronting today? what about the war in afghanistan? what about the war on terrorism? what about the budget sequester? >> and baltimore parties all night after the ravens' victory over the 49ers. the highest rated super bowl in history produced enough power for beyonce, but what triggered that 34 minute blackout? >> as the nfl works feverishly to get the power back on. we have a moment as the players now beginning to realize this may be a little bit of a delay as different players are setting out on the field starting to stretch, starting to stay loose. really as bewilledered as the rest of the crowd here. >> did brotherly love prevail over sibling rivalry? >> going against these years, you had a feeling he would come roaring back. the team reflects his permit. they came roaring back. they have so much character. they're amazi
are dying. middle east peace breaking up. that doesn't matter. the national debt. chuck hagel. that doesn't matter. there's a cruise ship outside of mobile bay. let's get a helicopter on them. >> wait a minute. wait a minute. >> that's quite a move. >> one little problem. >> what? what's that? >> the world didn't actually stop. and other things are happening. and hagel's -- >> oh, okay. >> -- vote was delayed. it will be well over another week before the senate reconsiders the nomination of chuck hagel. >> really? >> at the pentagon. >> this is the first time hearing of this. when did this happen? did they make this decision on the cruise ship? >> no. no, they didn't. it actually happened in washington. >> really? that's fascinating. >> which is its own permanent port-a-potty. >> okay. mika, for those of us that were just sitting there looking at a cruise ship for 24 hours instead of following the real news, why don't you catch us up with what actually happened yesterday in the news. >> republicans blocked a vote yesterday that would have ended the debate and allowed for a final decision
chuck hagel is confirmed by the senate. are republicans singling hagel out by delaying the vote? >> with the tradition of the senate, u.s. senators do not usually act this way at all. >> we'll get the latest. >>> and but first there's a lot going on today. here's things we thought you should know. karl rove said the american cross roads superpac is planning more ads attacking ashley judd. the democrat may be considering a run against senator republican leader mitch mcconnell. the superpac debuted an ad this week seeking to portray ashley judd as an inexperienced hollywood liberal who's not even a resident of kentucky. >>> a hacker apparently accessed private photos between both former presidents and claims to have a list of family addresses and phone numbers and e-mails. those are the things we just thought you should know. [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? your soups are so awesomely delicious my husband and i can't stop eating 'em! what's...that.
lindsey graham still doesn't know enough about benghazi and he is not going to let chuck hagel go forward unless we find out some more. >> i don't think we should allow brennan to go forward for the cia directorship, hagel to be confirmed to secretary of defense until the white house gives us an accounting. >> bill: i want more -- so he says he wants to know what now, by the way, remember lindsey graham started out by saying, i am not going to -- we are not going to move forward with hagle unless we get the secretary, of state, herself to testify on benghazi. she did. so then, he said, no, we are not going to move forward unless we get leon panetta to come forward. so did john brennan and they have had three freakin hearings on the senate. what more do they want? now lindsey graham says, i want to know minute by minute everything that president obama did the night of the benghazi attack, you know, which is absurd. congress cannot make a demand like that. by the way, maybe they should give us minute by minute what george bush did after the septembe
on the defensive. chuck hagel grilled on capitol hill. did he blow his shot to convince lawmakers that he's the right man for the job? >> friday, february 1st, and "starting point" begins right now. >>> welcome, everybody. breaking news, we start with. two people have died, several people wounded in explosion that has taken place outside the u.s. embassy in ankara, turkey. chris lawrence joins us from the pentagon. >> reporter: good morning, soledad. not much information right now. turkey authorities are responding to that scene, trying to collect more information. the blast happened just a short while ago, some. news reports out of that area, saw a big flash, heard a big bang. reports of several people wounded near a side gate of the embassy. we're waiting for more information, the u.s., of course, has two major air bases in turkey no, where near the capit capital. soledad. >> thank you, chris, for watching this story. >>> also, we told you just moments ago, the former new york city mayor ed koch has died. he passed away from congestive heart failure. he had really problems with his heal
to head the pentagon after chuck hagel's nomination comes up short in a key senate vote. let's talk about it with monica crowley radio talk show host and fox news contributor. harry reid said just when you thought things continue get worscouldn't get worse, it gets worse. >> senator reid is sanctimonious on this point blaming the republicans and getting all up in arms about the fact that the republicans are holding off on this nomination when the democrats have performed similar maneuvers to try to block republican nominees including george h.w. bush's choice for defense secretary john tower. and nominee john bolton. jon: this is the kind of thing that has happened before. >> on both side, correct. nothing new here. jon: why are the administration, and democrats in the senate making it out as though the sky is falling here? >> they are trying to make a political argument that the republicans are just doing this for politics but nothing could be further from the truth. chuck hagel is a very problematic nominee. he had one of the most disastrous confirmation hearing performances in recent h
in front of the courthouse. >>> so did chuck hagel roll it? roughed up in the senate. >>> geraldo rivera for senate. he is truly considering run for office. >> if he says it, it must be true. >> really? do you recall some special moments with geraldo? i'm zoraida sambolin. >> i'm john berman. friday, february 1st. february already. >>> an intense manhunt for one, possibly two suspects after an assistant district attorney gunned down outside a courthouse in texas. mark hos, a prosecutor in kaufmann county, killed after being shot several times as he got out of his car in the courthouse parking lot yesterday. authorities are pleading for leads. the fbi is helping in the case and his boss had a message for those responsible. >> i hope that the people that did this are watching. because we're very confident that we're going to find you, we're going to pull out of whatever hole you are in, and we're going to bring you back and let the people of kaufman county prosecute you to the fullest extent of the law. >> drew griffin is live in texas this morning. what's the latest? >> reporter: really,
. >> premonition. >> okay. fair enough. go ahead. >> in other news, chuck hagel is still days away from a senate vote -- >> because really, how can a bill destroy america when it's not even in effect? >> are we going to hear from lindsey again on the hagel story? god bless. >> is it really only one republican in washington, d.c. that can do sunday shows? john mccain would be good. >> yeah, he's 234not going to v for him. at the earliest, it won't happen until lawmakers return to washington next week after a ten-day recess. senator john mccain, one of hagel's most outspoken critics, pushed back against suggestions that his opposition was meant to settle old scores. >> is it payback time for chuck hagel? that's what this process has amounted to? >> of course not. 99% of it is to do with the positions that senator hagel has taken. the positions he's taken on various issues has frankly been not only out of the mainstream but far to the left. we will have a vote when we get back, and i'm confident that senator hagel will probably have the votes necessary to be confirmed as the secretary of defense. w
secretary nominee chuck hagel's explosive and contentious senate hearing. what are the chances that he'll get confirmed. >>> the dow closing above 14,000 for the very first time in years. will it continue? that's the big question. >>> but up first some brand new developments this out of alabama. that's where a 5-year-old boy remains hostage in an underground bunker. at this hour authorities sent a special message to the man holding him there, jimmy lee dykes. the standoff began five days ago when police say dykes kidnapped the boy from his school bus after shooting the driver. jonathan serrie is live at the scene in midland city, alabama. what's the latest? >> reporter: no resolution as the hostage standoff goes into a fifth afternoon. however, authorities say they are in constant communication with 65-year-old jimmy lee dykes communicating through the pvc pipe that provides ventilation from the surface to his underground bunker. authorities say they have no reason to believe that any physical harm has come to the 5-year-old hostage. listen. >> mr. dykes, through our communications we'
during the hearings of hillary clinton and even chuck hagel. >> heather: so not iminformed responses. i'll toss this question to you. they did indict the department of state, this is a quote, with shocking irresponsibility to protect american personnel at benghazi. the fact is the intelligence community and the department of state, they were sharing reports mostly provided by the c.i.a. for months that were outlining the growing threat in benghazi and, indeed, it was focused on western influence particularly the u.s. those requests early on for additional security prior to the attack went unanswered. you are satisfied with that response from panetta? >> yeah, i think what is being lost is the fact there has been an accountability review of all of this. they have laid out a number of recommendations. thef been agreed to by hillary clinton, by the president, by a number of people. we're not really at this point getting a lot new information. what is being lost in the context lindsay graham's request to have another hearing with will have papa. it's supposed -- leon panetta. there is a lot
. >>> the senate armed services committee can vote as early easy tomorrow on the confirmation of chuck hagel for secretary. if he makes it through and he probably will, it's on to a full senate vote. about a dozen senators are expected to vote no in large part because of past statements with israel, iran and nuclear weapons. president obama is planning a trip to the region in april. that is billed as a way to repair a strained relationship who himself just won reelection in a bruising campaign. sounds familiar there. actually the domestic political situation in israel is fascinating. as i indicated, netanyahu won the most seats, 31 in the past election. it was many fewer than what was expected. it was a surprising surge from a new party headed by a man who is called the oprah of israel. a pinterest party. now the question for netanyahu informing his coalition government. will he partner with the far right as he has in the past or try to person with the new centrist and form a new coalition and move to the left and make concessions as part of that. some of the concessions he would likely have
hillary clinton, chuck hagel, leon panetta and now john brennan. are they getting what they want out of this, which is basically to try to put some mud on the president's record? >> absolutely. i think that's been the clear goal. >> i think actually not. if you look particularly at the hearings of chuck hagel and hillary clinton, you see a lot of basically republican free lansing going on. i was surprised at how the lack of collective, thoughtful questioning -- you would have thought that they would have gotten in behind closed doors beforehand and said, what's our line of questioning going to be, what is second kwengs and thoughtful? in fact, that wasn't the case which is why hillary clinton most vividly gave as good as she got and came out on the winning side. i think hagel, given his inconsistencies came away unscarred. i think it's also interesting, most folks may not know this, the suggestion made yesterday by dianne feinstein of having another court look at this stuff, well, she made that suggestion that at the very moment a particular federal judge, who i happen to know is sit
. in the newsroom, rebecca cooper abc 7 news. >> the white house says it expects the senate will confirm chuck hagel as the next secretary of defense. today, the white house spokesman said president obama thinks he will be an excellent secretary. he dismissed critics of his performance at a contentious confirmation hearings yesterday. no democrats have said they would vote against him. today, a republican said he would oppose the nomination out. >> anne arundel county executive john leopold has resigned, just days after a judge found him guilty of misconduct in office. he was serving his second term. he issued a statement that said in part, "this decision is the most difficult decision i have ever made, but i know it is. right one and in the best interests of the citizens of anne arundel county." he acknowledged his mistakes. he will be sentenced in march, facing years in jail, but some legal experts believe he will get probation instead. >> the district's chief financial officer is retiring, the announcement coming less than a year after he was appointed to the post for three years. horace holmes j
this morning, after a tough day of questioning from the senate armed services committee, chuck hagel is still likely to be confirmed as the next defense secretary. the former nebraska senator was pressed about past statements on iran, israel, and his opposition to the troop surge in iraq. >>> the committee could vote next week. if he is confirmed, hagel would be the first former enlist the combat solder to head the pentagon. >>> in alabama, the hostage situation involving a 5-year-old boy has entered a third day. police say the alleged kidnapper is holding the boy at an underground bunker, wired with electricity and stocked with food. jimmy lee dykes is accused of taking that boy off a school bus after killing the driver. negotiators are talking to him through a pvc pipe. >>> snowmobiler caleb moore has died from injuries he suffered in an accident during the x games last weekend. the 25-year-old was hurt when his 450-pound snowmobile didn't complete a flip and landed on him. his death is the first in the 17-year history of the x games. espn issued a statement saying, "as a result of this acc
in president obama's pick for c.i.a. director and defense secretary. neither john brennan nor chuck hagel should go forward with their respected nominations until the president provides more information on the benghazi terror attack. democrats firing back calling graham's stance unjustified. steve is live in washington with more. >> reporter: there could be that attempt to hold up two important nominations until the white house answers more questions about benghazi. during that attack, senator lindsay graham wants to know whether the president reached out personally to libyan leaders. he said the nomination to chuck hagel and john brennan as c.i.a. chief could beside tracked until senators get the answers they want. while stopping short of supporting a filibuster, graham has serious concerns about whether the president did enough to stop the attack that killed four americans. >> i do believe if he had picked up the phone and called the libyan government, the folks could have gotten to the annex and last two guys may have been alive. if he called the libyan officials and blew him off, whet
could work this week on the chuck hagel nomination. the question remains whether or not republicans will block the nomination with a filibuster. the president traveling to push for slacker gun laws. with the nation focusing on the super bowl, we want to turn to washington's role on regulating the nfl. we will use super bowl sunday to talk about government regulations when it comes to the issue of steroids or head injuries. the phone lines are open. let's begin with a look at some of the headlines courtesy of the museum. from "the san francisco chronicle" -- from "the baltimore sun" -- let's turn to the politics and policy behind the nfl. this is a story a few days ago from "the washington post." outlining a plan and a letter to the executive director of the players union. they agreed as part of a 2011 collective bargaining agreement that the players should be tested for hgh, but the two sides of that agreed. two seasons have been played without it. last weekend in new orleans, roger goodell was asked a number of questions including one on the issue of head injuries. here is more fro
. a rough ride for president obama's pick to run the pentagon. what former senator chuck hagel said that have many people no longer worried about his views but his competence. >>steve: this is your pilot sleeping. the veteran pilot who was supposed to land that airplane passed out behind the control is what happened. we did wind up scrambling a fire truck if that tells you anything. let's go down to brian kilmeade at the super bowl. i know it's a special day if he gives me an introduction to the cold open. i'm awake now but it was an extremely late night. my trip to bourbon street. >> nowhere on bourbon street would you find santa claus partying. >>brian: that's an interesting hat. i will not be bringing it back. the real nfl experience live from new orleans. that's where we are. "fox & friends" starts now. [music] >>brian: that is the tulane marching band. they were there. we have the tulane cheerleaders as well. it's early for them. to the right we've got the louisiana national guard. they have been a busy group over the past ten years between katrina and the b.p. disaster. of cou
he's talking about possibly delaying chuck hagel's nomination. and also wayne lapierre. this is very important. because if you look at the profiles of all the people that committed these mass murders in newtown and aurora and across -- virginia tech, they are all hispanic drug gang leaders. and that's exactly what wayne lapierre said in an op-ed that americans need to buy guns because those latin americans are coming to america, and they're going to kill you people. this is who a lot of republicans in congress are thinking about falling off -- don't do it. don't hurt our party anymore. let wayne lapierre go wherever he wants to go. he's going to destroy the party. we're going to talk about the crazy op-ed has horrible for our party's image, horrible for the conservative movement's image, goes against everything ronald reagan stood for. we'll talk about that in a minute. first, breaking news. this is bizarre. the feel-good story of the olympic games involved in possibly murder. >> this was a total jaw-dropper this morning. oscar pistorius, for those people who don't know, is a south a
, and it sure isn't going to happen with chuck hagel whom we can discuss. but the whole idea that in this reckless fashion, congress is not stopping this move to sequester of the defense or the nondefense budget just boggles my mind. i haven't been there in two years, but the people who are there are shaking their heads. let me say this. i was in munich recently for the security conference, my 11th time with john mccain, lindsey graham and a on the of others. the europeans who have economic structural problems are trying to increase their defense capability and shaking their heads at us and looking at the fact that we don't have serious problems, but we're manufacturing these economic problems and may be slashing the heck out of our defense budget for this crazy political circus that sadly is congress now. >> mike barnicle. >> jane, let's stick with security. i mean, you were in the house intelligence committee when you were in congress, and now there's a lot of talk about the proposal to have a special court for drone strikes. and yet drone strikes are quite often, almost al
to the point. we'll see. let's talk about chuck hagel. bill kristol wrote an interesting piece on the importance of reconsidering these nominations. he used harriet miers as an example. any chance of that. >> with respect to harriet miers, the conservative opposition to her nomination to the supreme court came out pretty early and they made a strong case that she was less qualified and others and we got samuel alito who has served with distinction since he was placed on the high court. with respect to chuck hagel what is interesting to me is to see what democrats come out and oppose his nomination. he had a miserable appearance. it was a disaster when he testified last week. you heard that from people who were paid to defend the administration like robert gibbs said he was unprepared and unimpressive. martha: where does it go from here? do it look like lit pass to you or is there any sort of -- you mention robert gibbs groundswell for reconsideration. >> we have a senator from nebraska say he intends to support the nomination. and of course hagel served from nebraska. what will
thanks. the white house expects the senate to confirm chuck hagel as the next secretary of state despite the cuff grilling he got on yesterday's hearing. so far just one of his fellow republicans is publicly supporting him. it takes but one senator to block the nomination which really would make this a much tougher fight. mike emanuel is in d.c. what are you hearing from republicans tonight, mike? >> shep, multiple senators have told me chuck hagel did not help his cause with his performance at yesterday's hearing. they seem to think he will likely get confirmed based on the strength of democratic support. >> i think for cabinet office, 51 votes is generally considered the right standard for the senate to set and at that level, i think he makes it but i don't think he makes it with a lot of room to spare. >> a filibuster is possible. but a leading republican senator tells me he doubts it will succeed because enough g.o.p. members believe hagel deserves a vote, shep. >> shepard: any signs of any democrats bailing after that hearing? >> i'm told by leadership aids democratic support for ha
-offs for national security and we just can't go there. >> does chuck hagel get this? can he do the job in your opinion? is he aware of these argue ents? >> i certainly believe so. i think he has talked about a bloated defense enterprise. i certainly hope he will take some of these issues on if he is confirmed. >> once again just to conclude and we appreciate your time very, very much. we can protect our national security as we must but at the same time we can slim down the defense department, we can make some cuts. that's what you're saying? >> i believe that's what we can do if we take the cuts in the right place. >> michelle flournoy, former undersecretary of defense under president obama, we appreciate it very much. thank you. >> now, folks, prepare yourself, america the mighty, ann coulter is about to join us. there's a lot that happened today that we'll have to ask her about that include new revelations about benz and the controversial drone program. you don't want to miss this discussion. ♪ if loving you is wrong ♪ i don't wanna be right [ record scratch ] what?! it's not bad for you
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: so i can't even remember who. david gregory asked somebody, should the president withdraw chuck hagel's nomination? no! should he just step down and nominate someone else? >> no! >> stephanie: what? no! >> perhaps a republican? chuck hagel is a republican! >> twit! >> bill press had a really good point this morning. he and i are getting really tired of seeing john mccain and lindsey graham every single sunday on every single show! >> stephanie: the senator of the green room. [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] i was just going to get to that. lindsey graham will permanently -- on the couch or in a green aren't. he threatened to block votes on nominees for c.i.a. director and defense secretary until the administration gives more information about benghazi. well i declare -- i'll be sipping my mint julep. >> i don't think we should allow brennan to go forward for the c.i.a. directorship. hagel to be confirmed to secretary of defense until the white house gives us an accounting. >> stephanie: then he. >> announcer: ed away. >> was he one of the guys who gave -- there are some senators that
around the president. >> what's the latest? the president saying good-bye to leon panetta. chuck hagel hasn't been confirmed -- >> chuck hagel -- at the white house, they're saying he's going to get confirmed. they had the 55 democrat and independent votes that they need. they still say a filibuster would not be successful. but in chuck hagel and in john kerry, what the president has is not a team of rivals. it's more a team of boosters. people he feels comfortable with. that's the way he's going, clearly, in the second term. not a lot of sort of outsiders that he doesn't know or feel will support him. >> we'll know when that final confirmation in the senate armed services committee -- >> we don't. although the chairman has said, you've had requests for more information about financial disclosure, this is more than is required. it's very clear that levin wants to get a vote going quickly. they'd like to have hagel confirmed by the 27th. >> gloria, thanks very much. >>> violent protests erupting on the streets of tunisia. lisa sylvester is monitoring that and some of the other top stori
in confirming some of president obama's key appointees. chuck hagel at defense, john brennan at the cia, and now senator mccain saying he is not ready to call it a day on all of this. a congress hearing -- >> then you ought to have your facts straight. >> reporter: after congressional hearing. >> who responsible then? >> reporter: republican senator john mccain challenge, the white house on its response to benghazi. now he is going further on nbc's "meet the press." >> so there are many, many questions and we have had a massive cover-up. >> a cover-up of what? i'm just saying you, a cover-up of what? >> i'll be glad to send you a list of questions that have not been answered. >> reporter: the white house says it's given answers. conducted 20 briefings for congress. officials have testified at ten hearings, answered how queries. it all adds up to 10,000 pages of documents. just last week, mccain himself told cnn recent responses on benghazi were, quote, adequate. so, is this just politics? when we asked mccain's office what other questions the senator still had, we were referred to this january p
, and she took a hard line on iran. in contrast, i thought ironically to what chuck hagel was doing and saying and being attacked for. on benghazi, that's her lady mcbeth spot moment. she took the fall. that's why i said obama had a payoff by calling 60 minutes basically because she covered his rear end, and nothing she -- and then she still attacked the critics. the problem with what she said is she still hasn't answered the questions which are who invented this false stories, and i have a few other questions. >> jenna: let me ask you this. the reporter for the associated press that had this interview said the secretary seems to suggest that she doesn't feel anything from benghazi will come back and haunt her if she runs for president in 2016. what do you think about that? does this have staying pure? >> i don't know. that's a long time away, and it probably doesn't. but the problem is there's still four dead americans. nobody's been captured, and eventually the truth's going to come out. it always does about how this phony story whichrs by the way, she was a proponent of. she trie
nomination than was chuck hagel the week before. he was far more confident, far more informed, authoritative. but this is the first time it was ever debated, the subject. i mean it's gone undebated. and i have to concede that much of the criticism, i think from conservative press is absolutely valid. if this were george w. bush and dick cheney and we had increased by sixfold the number of unmanned attacks on other countries that are not combatant countries, that were not at war with, there would have been far more hue and cry. and it is interesting that the president, the only criticism in the president seems to be among a few liberals, and the support seems to be from people like john bolton-- and so it's a debate i think we have to have, we should have and it's been cloaked in secrecy and secrecy is the sacrosanct secular religion of this city. >> woodruff: so this has stirred it up? >> i think so, because of the leaked memo and the system, we are having a debate about drones. and i guess if i want a drone policy i want it run by a franciscan, not a jesuit. but he didn't really defend it,
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